John
Turner on Bass
8-String Fretted and
Fretless Bass
8-strings???
I've heard of them, where the strings are doubled, but yours are
individual strings. What is up with that??
I just
felt like expanding the palettes a bit. The 8-strings have a lot
of different features than my 7's do. To start with, they are both
3 octave necks which gives me a range of 71 notes, from below the
range of a piano to above the range of most guitars. Because of
the way I tune them, F#-B-E-A-D-G-B-E, I lose a note - oh boy -
but that is still a big leap from my 7's (57 notes on my 28 fret
7-strings) and light years from the "normal" 4 string,
which gives a usable range of only 39 notes on a 24 fret neck.They
have a longer scale length, 35" instead of 34", which
I wanted to experiment with. They also have custom Music Man pickups
in them, which I had specially made by Seymour
Duncan. The electronics are pretty intense too; they have the
usual 3-band eq that I like in all my basses, but they also have
a fully Parametric Eq band, with Q, cut/boost, and frequency. They
have piezo pickups in the bridge that not only give the most excellent
representation of an upright that I have ever heard from an electric,
they also interface with a synthesizer using the Roland 13-pin standard,
courtesy of RMC electronics.
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I
can play any combination of magnetic pickups, piezo pickups and synth
at any time. To top it off, the woodworking on these things is another
new step for me - Bill Conklin made the fretboard of each bass from
the same block that he made the neck from, so the wood stringers through
the neck are visible on the fretboard. It really is killer. Furthermore,
my 8-string fretless has lines made of bubinga on the highest octave,
along with brass dot position markers on the side of the neck - very
cool indeed.
What
do you think of the longer scale length?
The verdict
- no difference, at least none that I can tell. It's a commonly
held belief that the longer scale length will give you a better
low B, and lower, and in fact I have heard luthiers make the claim
that no 34" bass could have the low B response that their 36"
instrument has. Well, I have got to tell you, I have my through-body
7-string (34" scale length) tuned with a low F#, and it is
just as articulate and precise as the low F# on my 35" scale
length 8 string.
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I have
compared all my Conklins
at various times to many different basses, including those with
a 36" scale length, and I haven't found any that could compare,
let alone sound better. I think, and Bill Conklin has backed me
up on this, that of MUCH greater importance to the performance of
the lower notes is how rigid and well constructed the neck is. Bill's
necks are all top notch, completely hand carved, and totally rigid.
My basses never even go out of tune. Bill makes the best necks I
have ever played, and they reflect in the performance of the instrument.I
also think that the mass of the instrument has a lot to do with
how well the lower notes will sustain. A vibrating string has momentum
based upon its mass. A high pitched string's momentum will be negligible
compared to the mass of any bass, but the low F# on my basses is
.150" wide. When you pick this thing up you can really feel
it. When a string that size vibrates on a bass, you better have
a rigid neck, a massive bridge, and hopefully an instrument that
isn't going to just vibrate along with the string, dampening it.
The way to avoid this is with mass, and let me tell you, that's
something my basses have (laughs).
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What's
up with the Duncan pickups? I thought you were really into Lane
Poors.
I really
am into Lane Poors, I just wanted a change on these basses. The
Lane Poor company philosophy, at least as I understand it, was that
the pickups should be as clean and flat and uncolored as possible,
and I'll tell you what, I think they hit the nail on the head. The
pickups in my 7 strings have got the widest, most even response
I have ever heard.
With the
8 strings, I was just under the impression that a Music Man pickup
has a definite sound to it, and getting something that was just flat,
response-wise, seemed to defeat the purpose. Besides, the few Music
Man-equipped basses that I played with the Seymour
Duncan MM pickup in them all sounded fabulous, and the guys at
Duncan were really cool and easy to work with, getting the string-to-string
dimensions from Bill and basically building the pickups to our specs.
I love the pickups, they are really different sounding than those
on my other basses, the basses are like these big, mutant 16 lb man-eating
Music Men. They are the Music Uber-Mensch, for our Nietzschoids out
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So,
what do you do with all those strings? I bet you hear that a lot.
(laughs)
Actually, I do hear it all the time. I usually tell whoever
is asking that most of what I play could be played on a 5 string.
Then I say things like "Most guitarists could do most of what
they do on a 5 string guitar or less" and "The number
of strings ultimately doesn't matter as much as what you do with
them"And, if that doesn't work, I finally resort to:
"I
like to think that what I play, whether on the 'Original 4' or on
the extended range strings has a uniqueness and a style independent
of the instrument that helps to define me as a player - I can and
do play classical guitar lines, bass lower than a piano, even synthesizer
- I can really do whatever I want. The way our music is constructed,
the more creative that I am, the more room and creative freedom
that is available to everyone else in the band - it's not like 'time
for John's solo, everyone sit out the next 8' - they all have to
actually deal with what I am doing. It forces everyone to be more
creative, and I like it that way. Although I can't say for certain,
I think the guys in the band like it that way too."
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Most
of the time by then whoever asked is either staring at me with a blank,
glazed, possum-in-the-headlights look on their face, or else mentioning
something about 4 strings being enough for Jaco or Jamerson or some
other dead hero of the instrument. Sometimes I just have to smile
and shrug. I mean, after all, no telling what Jaco would've played
if these kinds of instruments were available to him, and besides,
ultimately, I am not playing to the ghost of anyone - I like what
I do, I absolutely love the feel of bass strings against my fingers,
and I love the music that I play. I don't like 4 strings, or anything
less than 7 for that matter, and it's my music, my money and my choice.
So there. Bthpthpthphtph!!!
Sounds
like I hit a nerve.
Is it
that obvious? I guess I've gotten tired of that particular question.
Sorry if I sounded snappy.
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John
Turner on Bass
8-String Fretted and
Fretless Bass
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